[UCI-Linux] Posting Fedora update notices to uci-linux?

Harry Mangalam hjm at tacgi.com
Wed May 3 13:30:39 PDT 2006

While it doesn't address your current problem, it sounds like you do need 
something like RHEL or Debian /stable/ (which I believe moves at an even 
slower pace and remains supported longer than RHEL).  For appliance-level 
machines, that's probably the right choice.  For developers needing access to 
the latest libs, features, of course not.

Ubuntu's next release Dapper is planned on being stable and supported for 5 
years after its release (helps to have a(nother) billionaire supporting the  
OS), so it might be a decent choice after your thesis is finished (planned 
final release is in June), tho I'm running the rc6 version quite happily.

Or maybe wait for Oracle's Ellinux(TM) to come out - then we'll have 2 
billionaires supporting Linux.


On Wednesday 03 May 2006 13:16, you wrote:
> Hi Harry,
> an example is our workgroup server (nil.ics.uci.edu). Its running SUSE9
> (not my choice), which is no longer maintained by the vendor. ICS support
> is on my case regarding an unpatched vulnerability in apache. I can now
> either take a week off from dissertation writing and update our server to
> something more recent, or I can take a day off, recompile apache from
> scratch, and postpone the real fix for another few weeks (preferably past
> my graduation date ;) ). Fedora has even shorter product lifetimes than
> SuSE.
> My office machine, in contrast, is running RHEL3 since I joined UCI. Its
> still supported by RedHat, I get my occasinal patches automatically at
> night and every once in a while the machine reboots after a kernel
> update. Thats about the level of effort I have to invest to keep it
> running.
> All we really care for is a stable platform that runs emacs/xterm/make/gcc
> and requires no or very little user intervention. RedHat Enterprise Linux
> seems to be a good choice for that, but I am sure there are other options.
> Regards,
> Andreas
> On Wed, 3 May 2006, Harry Mangalam wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 May 2006 11:29, Andreas Gal wrote:
> >> Talking about Linux, do we finally have a redhat site license? Fedora is
> >> nice if you have the time to play around with bleeding edge distros, but
> >> I need my machines to "just work" (tm). We currently use ScientificLinux
> >> (RHEL4 recompile) for most of our machines.
> >
> > What problems do you have that can be traced to the distro as opposed to
> > an application oops?
> >
> > In my experience, there's never been a linux (or ANY) OS distro that
> > 'just works' (also depends on how you define 'works').  The Linux ones
> > are getting much better - the MEPIS/Debian distro is the best for
> > multimedia app integration that I've seen.  Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian is the
> > best for scientific computation (AMD64), tho I haven't tried FC on that
> > platform - longtime appreciation for Debian systems.  On a cluster tho,
> > the RH-based ROCKS has the advantage because of support/update/additions
> > considerations.
> >
> > I fought for years to get ANY linux distro/kernel combination to allow me
> > to sleep/hibernate my Thinkpad correctly - Kubuntu Breezy was the 1st to
> > get it right out of the box (tho the sound goes off post-sleep). I
> > presume Dapper will continue that trend.
> >
> > Just my 2 phennigs.

Cheers, Harry
Harry J Mangalam - 949 856 2847(o) 949 285 4487(c) (email for fax)
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