[MGSA-L] Watch Lethal Nationalism: Genocide of the Greeks 1913-1923 Online | Vimeo On Demand on Vimeo

Topalidis,George gtopalidis at ufl.edu
Mon Aug 17 05:32:06 PDT 2020

While I agree with Akis, generalizations regarding such statistics can be harmful to one's credibility long term, I think this points to a larger problem and raises some interesting questions). Take the "roughly" 1.2 million figure, for example. That is the number of immigrants and refugees entering Greece over the course of a decade. That figure does not accurately represent all displaced individuals who were documented as Greek by the authorities representing the various government bureaucracies worldwide. Greece was only one of the nations receiving immigrants and refugees over the course of that decade. So, technically, it could be "millions more" or hundreds-of-thousands, or tens-of-thousands, or thousands, or hundreds I would rather not speculate. To rap up here and taking Akis's assertion into consideration, the questions this advertisement raises: 1. How many immigrants and refugees were displaced worldwide from the former Ottoman Empire and to which countries? 2. How did they enter those countries ("legally" or "illegally")? The second question is linked to the first and its answer would, I believe, aid in statistical accuracy.

Glad to see the advertisement for this documentary has raised such questions.

Kindest regards,

Georgios Topalidis
Ph.D. Candidate- Department of Sociology and Criminology & Law
Samuel Proctor Oral History Program
Ottoman Greeks of the US Project Coordinator
Florida Judges Project Coordinator
University of Florida
gtopalidis at ufl.edu
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"Nearly a million Greeks were killed, while millions more were uprooted from their ancestral homelands"
These figures are hardly convincing and seem thrown almost at random, in order to impress. Especially the vague expression "millions more", without any reference of a precise number (how many millions? Two? Thirty ...?).
According to a more or less generally accepted estimation in Greek historiography, the number of Ottoman Greeks uprooted in 1922 was roughly 1,2 million.
The only thing one achieves by exaggerating is to undermine one's credibility in the long term.

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Under the fog of war during World War 1, the Genocide of the Greeks was carried out at the hands of the Ottoman and Nationalist Turks.

3,000 years of history, destroyed and almost erased in only 10 years, 1913-1923.

“Lethal Nationalism” explores this dark chapter of history with, survivor interviews, historic film footage, informative graphics and illustrations along with contextual analysis from leading academics.

Nearly a million Greeks were killed, while millions more were uprooted from their ancestral homelands in Asia Minor (Turkey), Pontus, and Eastern Thrace as part of the Ottoman and Nationalist Turks’ campaign of ethnic cleansing of its indigenous non Turkish populations. The Genocide annihilated the Greek, Armenian and Assyrian Christian populations.

This tragic event, the first Genocide of the 20th century, has been kept silent for 100 years. This Genocide became the model for all Genocides to follow, less than 20 years later, the Holocaust was put in motion.

Lethal Nationalism exposes the events of the past with current efforts by the government of Turkey to deny its nation’s complicity in this genocide and to suppress those of its citizens who have the courage to testify to the contrary.

As Edmund Burke said, “All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.”

Bill Kurtis, legendary Documentarian and television news anchorman, narrates this powerful documentary. “This production is one of the most important projects that I’ve ever been associated with and it provides a sobering lesson as to why we should never forget the suffering that is caused by genocide.” - Bill Kurtis

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