[MGSA-L] Fw: Statement of Protest (and the facts)

Spiros Moschonas smoschon at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Aug 12 14:02:53 PDT 2017


why, there it is: http://www.areiospagos.gr/nomologia/apofaseis_DISPLAY.asp?cd=TFPHINDWD34I3K8W0R4292593NI7EK&apof=697_2017&info=%D0%CF%CB%C9%D4%C9%CA%C5%D3%20-%20%20%C11

On Aug 12, 2017 6:35 PM, DIMITRAS PANAGIOTIS <helsinki at otenet.gr> wrote:
>
> Since this topic has reached this academic list, may I point out that 
> despite public calls (eg. Richardos Someritis on Facebook) the exact 
> reasoning of the judgment against the ARB has NEVER been published; 
> hence NOONE can say with certainty why the court ruled that way (though 
> most likely in a way abusive of ECtHR case law). One wonders why 
> Vasilakis, Kanellis and Pappas have not published the reasoning if not 
> the whole judgment (as for example the "Richter trials" judgment has 
> been published).
>
> Panayote Dimitras
> > 
> >    1. Re: Fw: Statement of Protest (and the facts) (Spiros Moschonas)
> >    2. Re: Fw: Statement of Protest (and the facts) (akis at sfr.be)
> >    3. Re: Fw: Statement of Protest (and the facts) (DANIEL P. Tompkins)
> > 
> > concerning the "facts":
> > 
> > first, I think nobody asked anybody to sign the letter of protest; it
> > is signed as it is
> > second, it was not claimed that Kotzias studied "with Honecker's
> > money"; it was claimed that Kotzias studied with the party's money in
> > Honecker's Germany; and no insinuation was made that Kotzias was a
> > Stasi agent; it was claimed instead that he participated in a book
> > edited by Manfred Buhr, "επικεφαλής του
> > Ιδεολογικού Αγώνα του Κομμουνιστικού
> > Κόμματος της Ανατολικής Γερμανίας
> > (και πράκτορα της Στάζι με το
> > ψευδώνυμο Ελαφοπόδαρος"; all in support of the
> > major claim that he was a stalinist, which Kotzias has not rejected
> > 
> > and, last but not least, keep in mind that most of these were claims
> > in a letter to the editor of the ARB, not in an "ARB story"; an answer
> > to the letter would have been sufficient
> > S.
> > 
> > -------------------------
> >  FROM: "akis at sfr.be" <akis at sfr.be>
> >  TO: rolandmo at pacbell.net; MGSA List <mgsa-l at uci.edu>
> >  SENT: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:56 PM
> >  SUBJECT: Re: [MGSA-L] Fw: Statement of Protest
> > 
> > The facts of the case against the ARB may be "well known", but not all
> > of them are mentioned in this letter of protest. So in order for
> > anybody wishing to sign to be able to ponder all the pros and cons, I
> > think it would be useful to mention some additional facts.
> > The object of the trial was not the cold war, nor the content of the
> > convictions held by Kotzias -or anybody else- 30 years ago, or now.
> > It was the statements of facts, contained in the ARB story, that
> > Kotzias was a "Gauleiter" [term designing a Nazi official] and that he
> > had studied in East Germany "with Honecker's money". Insinuations were
> > also made that he was a Stasi agent.
> > These claims were found inaccurate and libelling by the Greek court.
> > This may or may not be sufficient justification for the decision. But
> > I don't think it is useful to politicize the issue in such an explicit
> > manner. Political views can be credited or discredited according to
> > history's ups and downs. The persons who hold them, or held them in
> > the past, must have the right to a fair trial, and to object any non
> > true statements made against them.
> > 
> > ---- Message d'origine ----
> >  De : Roland Moore <rolandmo at pacbell.net>
> >  À : MGSA List <mgsa-l at uci.edu>
> >  Objet : [MGSA-L] Fw: Statement of Protest
> >  Date : 09/08/2017 20:46:40 CEST
> > 
> > On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 10:55 AM, John O. Iatrides
> > <joiatrides at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> >  I would appreciate it very much if you could post the attached
> > statement on the MGSA List.
> >
>
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