[MGSA-L] Syriza vs. Xrisi Aygi column Του Νικου Χρυσολωρα

Stathis Gourgouris ssg93 at columbia.edu
Thu Sep 27 12:57:50 PDT 2012

Dear Mr. Chrysoloras,

Since you have moved from the language of journalism to the language of 
political science and social theory (which is the impetus of this 
academic list, beyond mere sharing of information), permit me to respond 
to the points you make for the sake of a proper intellectual debate. I 
respond to your points in sequence below -- and my apologies to all for 
lengthening even further this discussion.

On 9/27/2012 4:31 AM, Nikos Chrysoloras wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
> I have been following your debate regarding my article with great 
> interest. Allow me to respond to some of the points made here. 
> Obviously, my article does not suggest that the content of SYRIZA's 
> political discourse is in any way similar to Chrissi Avgi's discourse. 
> _But the structure is identical_. They both use what Laclau and Mouffe 
> (Laclau, E. & Mouffe C.,  Hegemony and Socialist Strategy, 2nd ed., 
> (London: Verso Books, 2001 [1985]) call "the logic of equivalence". 
> The logic of equivalence, as some of you may already know, constructs 
>  a chain of equivalential identities among different elements that are 
> seen as expressing a certain sameness”.
I am very surprised to see you making here an entirely 
_formalist_//argument. There is already an assumption here that goes 
unquestioned: The fact that politics is some kind of game, where it is 
enough for an analyst to juxtapose different groups and measure their 
differences and similarities, as if they are indeed equivalent. But 
political constituencies are made by real men and women, with ideologies 
and beliefs, passions and experiences, prejudices and delusions. All of 
these elements carry specific histories, which in no way could ever be 
measured in any quantitative scale but require careful historical 
analysis of particulars. In real politics, there can never be 
equivalence of identities, unless human beings become machines.

To say, moreover, that only "the structure of XA and SYRIZA are similar 
or equivalent" is quite insidious in that it automatically silences the 
difference in "content of political discourse" which you acknowledge. As 
a result, the content (and its difference) disappears from the 
discussion. This gesture is symptomatic of the entire edifice of 
assumptions on which your analysis is based, but, pardon me if I remind 
you, that is a _political decision_ on your part to ignore the content.
> In the case of SYRIZA's and Chrissi Avgi's populism, the political 
> spectrum is simplified by the two populist discourses, to the extent 
> that is perceived as being formed by two opposing camps: the people 
>  and its “enemies”. In an interview with me 
> (http://www.epohi.gr/portal/theoria/8424) Ernesto Laclau , the most 
> important academic author on populism, argues that no matter its 
> content, a discourse is populist to the extent that it refers to the 
> “people” as a unified and undivided entity. The available space does 
> not allow me to elaborate further, but for those who are interested, I 
> suggest the book "On Populist Reason" by Laclau.
> My point is that both parties are populist.
Knowing your Laclau is well and good, but not very useful when you 
neglect your history. ALL Greek political parties are populist -- at 
least since 1981. The New Democracy Party specifically reached 
practically unfathomable heights of populism under both the Karamanlis 
and Samaras leadership in recent years, while nonetheless serving global 
neoliberal interests. That ALL Greek political parties are populist is 
the unfortunate indication of the degradation of Greek parliamentary 
politics, but it has been increasingly the tendency of parliamentary 
politics in most of the 'Western' world -- witness American politics 
since the Reagan era.

Interestingly enough, SYRIZA is the least populist of Greek parties in 
that otherwise terrible scale that implicates all. This is because 
certain of its constituencies have very specific leftist orientations 
that emphasize all kinds of particularities of identities, particularly 
in terms of gender and sexuality politics, politics of immigration, and 
biopolitics in general.
> But similarities do not stop there. They both dispute the legitimacy 
> of the Constitution, the Government, and the Democratic regime in 
> general. I will not refer to specific examples from Chrissi Avgi, 
> since we all more or less know what this neo-fascist party supports. 
> But I challenge those who dispute my argument to visit the website of 
> SYRIZA and do a content analysis on its press releases. The press 
> releases do not just state a strong disagreement with the current 
> policies followed in Greece (that would be completely understandable), 
> but dispute the democratic legitimation of the government. Terms like 
> "genocide", "death contracts against the people" are habitually used, 
> while the underlying logic of most of the arguments is that there is a 
> "chain of equivalence" (again), between a foreign oppressor (the EU) 
> and its local puppets (the Greek government).

Of course, this is a slanderous assertion that doesn't fit the context 
of a serious analysis. It's precisely what such writings like yours and 
Mr. Kasimatis have been fostering in order to fashion an ideology of 
extremes. I won't even bother with this one. I will only ask you: how do 
you imagine that 27% of Greek voters, the overwhelming majority of whom 
are not SYRIZA members, voted for SYRIZA in the recent elections (and 
are, by all accounts ready to do so again), if your characterization of 
SYRIZA is true? Do you believe that nearly one third of Greek voters 
woke up one day and voted for a party that would strip them of their 
constitutional rights?

There is one thing to keep in mind that a lot of people seem to forget, 
or seem to want to forget. SYRIZA is not some fringe group. It is, at 
this point, a major political movement, with broad support in the 
population across classes, age groups, etc., and the premier party of 
parliamentary opposition. For people to denigrate it in such fashion, 
especially by calling it equivalent with a bunch of thugs, most of whom 
have criminal records or have criminal charges pending against them, is 
an insult not to SYRIZA members but to more than a million and half 
Greek citizens.

> Now, we all know that all Greek governments of the past 38 years have 
> been elected in office through legitimate and fair elections. We all 
> know that Greek governments asked for the IMF/EU intervention. We all 
> know that the Second Adjustment Program was approved last March by a 
> 2/3 majority in the Greek parliament, and we all know that the 
> tri-partite pro-European government in Athens enjoys the support of 
> the majority of the parliament and received 48% of the vote in last 
> June's elections. So why, oh why, SYRIZA doesn't just say "I strongly 
> disagree", but argues that "you guys are not legitimate"? The 
> difference is crucial!!

The use of the word "legitimacy" is never innocent -- not only when 
politicians use it (no matter where they are in the political spectrum), 
but also when academics use it (political scientists, economists, legal 
scholars, etc.) Again, there can never be _formal_ legitimacy. 
Legitimacy is always determined within a sphere of power, and even the 
most inclusive such sphere will remain structured according to some sort 
of constitutive asymmetry.

Yes, Greek governments are legitimate insofar as they have been elected. 
But this does not mean that all their actions, indiscriminately, are 
legitimate. If that were the case, then all broken promises, all acts of 
corruption, all clientelist practices, all _partisan_ actions (sometimes 
against the interests of the nation's sovereignty -- you know, I'm sure, 
how often this happens in a democracy) would also be legitimate. Are you 
ready to accept this? I can't imagine.

The fact of the matter is that our country has mortgaged its political 
sovereignty to elite global economic interests. That's a long 
theoretical discussion as to why etc. which we can't do here. But it's 
certainly not the only country by any means. It's also a fact, 
corroborated by the most famous economists worldwide, that the Second 
Adjustment Program is the confirmation of Greece's loss of sovereignty 
for God knows how many years into the future.

> And finally, my third point. I use the term "democracy" in my 
> Kathimerini article, in line with John Rawls' theory of justice. For 
> those of us who are not political scientists, let me simplify things a 
> bit. In a fair democratic society, we can all fight for our political 
> views, as long as we all agree on the rules of our fight. If we don't 
> agree on the rules, then democracy will fall apart. It's like playing 
> a soccer game. Both teams do their best to beat the opponent, but the 
> game cannot be played if the teams do not agree on what is a foul, 
> what is a corner kick, if the players can use their hands, etc. SYRIZA 
> consistently supports civil disobedience movements. Members of the 
> party supported the restaurant owners on the island of Hydra who had 
> beaten tax inspectors, because the latter ones tried to check if they 
> issue receipts. Mr. Tsipras said that school teachers can be excused 
> if they deliver private courses to their students, without issuing 
> receipts. And SYRIZA supported the "I am not paying" movement in 
> Greece. So if we can't agree that all citizens are obliged to pay 
> taxes, then how the hell will democratic politics function in Greece?
First of all, you can use the Hydra example if you want, but do your 
homework and mention to people that one of the leading figures in SYRIZA 
and current MP, Mr. Dimitris Papdimoulis, had immediately and publicly 
stigmatized the behavior of the restauranteur and his supporters. 
But the essence is elsewhere.

I agree that in democracy we have to fight by the same rules, but I 
remind you that democracy is not a game. It's intense and risky business 
-- it's agonistic business. And it is so because, though people are 
presumably free to vote with equal capacity, the asymmetries of power 
remain and they can never be bracketed from the process. And though the 
procedural rules are to be agreed upon, one's understanding of democracy 
will never be agreed upon in any democratic society. That's the case 
since ancient Athens. You may think democracy in terms of Rawls, and I 
may think democracy in terms of Rancière or Castoriadis. In my 
democracy, dissent is essential. Civil disobedience is one of the 
pillars of democracy. I can tell you, there can be democracy without 
consensus, but there can never be democracy without dissent. Not all 
dissent is just, of course. But neither is all consent -- so the 
question is not about justice. We're not discussing ethics here; we're 
discussing politics.

> Thank you for your patience,
> Nikos Chrysoloras, PhD (London School of Economics)
> EU Correspondent, Kathimerini daily,
> Brussels

I extend my thanks for everybody's patience as well.
Stathis Gourgouris

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>        1. Re: Syriza vs. Xrisi Aygi column ??? ????? ?????????
>           (athanasios grammenos)
>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>     From: athanasios grammenos <athanasiosgrammenos at gmail.com
>     <mailto:athanasiosgrammenos at gmail.com>>
>     To: Philip Hager <philip.hager at googlemail.com
>     <mailto:philip.hager at googlemail.com>>
>     Cc: MGSA List <mgsa-l at uci.edu <mailto:mgsa-l at uci.edu>>,
>     pn2005 at optusnet.com.au <mailto:pn2005 at optusnet.com.au>,
>     "Grammenos, Dennis" <d-grammenos at neiu.edu
>     <mailto:d-grammenos at neiu.edu>>
>     Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:50:21 +0300
>     Subject: Re: [MGSA-L] Syriza vs. Xrisi Aygi column Του Νικου Χρυσολωρα
>     Dear Mr Hager,
>     Thank you for talking some time to read and think on the post I
>     sent to the list.
>     Let me first make clear that I preferred not to escort the initial
>     posting with any comment because I believe in every list member's
>     ability to make his/her own conclusions. Besides, other members
>     occasionally post only with a "fyi" or "to the members of the
>     list" so I didn't want to be out of the spirit. My initiative was
>     oriented only to enrich the public dialogue in this list on the
>     emerging situation in Greece; not easy!
>     Then, allow me to say that your understanding of my reply is poor.
>     First, nobody accused no one for being a "murderer". This is a
>     risky and arbitrary conclusion of yours and I wish to keep
>     distant. However, as I mentioned to my previous letter, when a
>     political leader raise objections to the very application of the
>     Constitution, or when by declaration of another party leader (Mrs
>     Papariga of KKE) he is publicly linked to the
>     "musketeers-koukouloforoi" (who are criminals whether you like it
>     or not) then there is a very serious suspicion on his polity.
>     On your second point, I am sorry but I did not use the term
>     "neoliberalism", and it is not polite trying either to interpret
>     and characterize me or to charge me words that I did not use. For
>     your own information though, let me -as a political scientist- to
>     distinguish "neo-liberals" from "neo-cons", which is a common
>     mistake made by the Greek radicals, too. Now, how you conclude
>     from my last message, that "/freedom of expression is (restricted
>     to) the right to express the neoliberal consensus/", this is your
>     own issue.
>     In contrast, I said:
>     /"Προσωπικά, δεν υιοθετώ καμία άποψη, προσπαθώ να κατανοήσω την
>     φυσιογνωμία, την στρατηγική και το ήθος των πολιτικών κομμάτων,
>     αποδέχομαι όμως το διαφορετικό ως βασική "συνιστώσα" διαλόγου και
>     προσπαθώ να το χρησιμοποιήσω εποικοδομητικά". (=Personally, I do
>     not adopt any of those views/,/I try to understand the identity,
>     strategy and ethos of the political parties, however I accept the
>     'other' as a fundamental component of dialogue and I try to use it
>     constructively/").
>     On your conspiracy theory, that "/of the Greek media propaganda
>     against those who propose a different solution to the crisis/" I
>     will make no comments. Blaming someone of "witchcraft", is a step
>     backwards. I remind you though that the huge majority of the Greek
>     media belongs traditionally to the left wing and beyond
>     "Kathimerini" and "To Vima", the rest are flirting with Drachma,
>     "/a different solution to the crisis/", as you said.
>     Last, I want to thank our moderator for he allowed a fruitful
>     conversation (of some fifteen posts) to develop. It shows that
>     debating with different -even contending- views, can give us
>     something important. Well done!
>     Εν ελευθερία
>     ΑΓ
>     Στις 26 Σεπτεμβρίου 2012 2:53 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Philip Hager
>     <philip.hager at googlemail.com <mailto:philip.hager at googlemail.com>>
>     έγραψε:
>         Dear fellow list members,
>         Although I do think that all this discussion about the
>         Χρυσολωράς article is really out of proportion, I could not
>         resist responding: the previous respondant (Ath. Grammenos)
>         wrote that some of syriza's components are not much different
>         to the golden dawn and that this is commonplace knowledge
>         within Greek society. Without meaning to be disrespectful to a
>         fellow MGSAer I'd like to say that none of syriza's members is
>         a verified murderer; articles such as the one in /kathimerini/
>         (or many in /kathimerini /and other newspapers for that
>         matter) are responsible for equating syriza with golden dawn;
>         an axiom that then becomes commonsensical because of the Greek
>         media propaganda against those who propose a different
>         solution to the crisis (the golden dawn is not included here,
>         because they do not propose a solution, but mass extermination).
>         Another thing I wanted to stress here is that the academic way
>         of talking about things, does not reproduce newspaper articles
>         without critically interrogating them and does not use
>         opinions expressed in a newspaper as evidence. Moreover, the
>         use of words such as democracy, freedom (of speech or other)
>         seem to be used in a very particular (and thus limited) way by
>         both Χρυσολωράς and Ath. Grammenos (in his latest contribution
>         to this thread): in their understanding democracy is
>         (restricted to) a political system where the absolute truth of
>         neoliberalism must be the compass of all political parties
>         (therefore anyone who against this kind of bourgeois/
>         liberal/representative democracy becomes an anti-democrat) and
>         freedom of expression is (restricted to) the right to express
>         the neoliberal consensus (therefore anyone who presents an
>         opinion outside the neoliberal consensus is against the
>         freedom of expression(!).
>         Athanasios Grammenos wrote of a return to the middle ages.
>         Indeed neoliberal rationality constitutes exactly this: a
>         return to the darkest pages of our history books.
>         Philip Hager
>         On 25 Sep 2012, at 18:28, athanasios grammenos wrote:
>>         Δεν χωρούν πολλά λόγια όταν κάποιος "στάζει" ειρωνία. Είναι
>>         προφανές ότι κεντρίζεται από τον ελεύθερο διάλογο, την άλλη
>>         άποψη. Πάντως, η επιστήμη που δεν αφουγκράζεται την κοινωνία
>>         δεν είναι επιστήμη. Μπορεί λοιπόν οι "ανθρωπολόγοι" της
>>         λίστας να "ξενίστηκαν" από την προώθηση ενός τέτοιου κειμένου
>>         (αλήθεια, "ξενίστηκαν" ή "ενοχλήθηκαν") όμως ο Πολιτικός
>>         Επιστήμονας και ο Κοινωνιολόγος του μέλλοντος θα το βρουν
>>         πολύ χρήσιμο για να αντιληφθούν τις ζυμώσεις που γίνονται
>>         στην Ελλάδα σήμερα. Κρίμα που τόσοι πολλοί μιλούν για την
>>         Ελλάδα και τόσοι λίγοι καταλαβαίνουν τι συμβαίνει σ' αυτήν.
>>         Ότι κάποιες συνιστώσες του ΣΥΡΙΖΑ λειτουργούν όπως και η
>>         Χρυσή Αυγή είναι κάτι που αποδέχεται πλέον ένα μεγάλο μέρος
>>         της ελληνικής κοινωνίας. Γιατί λοιπόν κάποιοι "σοκάρονται";
>>         Γιατί δεν ακούν την κοινωνία! Ίσως γιατί κατοικούν πολύ
>>         μακριά, ίσως πάλι γιατί μέσα από την "επιστήμη" προσπαθούν να
>>         διαδώσουν πολιτικές θέσεις, κατά βάση κατατρεγμένες από τα
>>         ΕΑΜικά σύνδρομα. Έτσι εξηγείται ότι ανέχονται κάθε λογής
>>         άσχετη πληροφορία που κυκλοφορεί στην "λίστα" αλλά θίγονται
>>         μόνο όταν κάποιος εκφραστεί επικριτικά για την Ριζοσπαστική
>>         Αριστερά, ένα κόμμα που στις τάξεις της περιλαμβάνει
>>         αντιΕυρωπαϊστές, αντιΑμερικανούς, αντιΕβραίους (ναι, και
>>         όμως!), κομμουνιστές μέχρι αναρχικούς, που όλοι επιθυμούν την
>>         ανατροπή της αστικής δημοκρατίας. Ένα κόμμα που "χαϊδεύει τα
>>         αυτιά των κουκουλοφόρων". Ένα κόμμα που ο αρχηγός του έχει
>>         πει: "Οι νόμοι που ψηφίζονται από την Βουλή, θα ακυρώνονται
>>         από εμάς στο πεζοδρόμιο"! Τόση δημοκρατικότητα!
>>         Να λοιπόν πόσα ερεθίσματα δίνει το άρθρο, όπως και τα κείμενα
>>         του Κασιμάτη στην ίδια εφημερίδα (αρκετά από τα οποία έχω
>>         στείλει κατά καιρούς) που ορισμένοι εδώ μέσα κάνουν ότι δεν
>>         αντιλαμβάνονται. Προσωπικά, δεν υιοθετώ καμία άποψη, προσπαθώ
>>         να κατανοήσω την φυσιογνωμία, την στρατηγική και το ήθος των
>>         πολιτικών κομμάτων, αποδέχομαι όμως το διαφορετικό ως βασική
>>         "συνιστώσα" διαλόγου και προσπαθώ να το χρησιμοποιήσω
>>         εποικοδομητικά. Φαίνεται όμως ότι δεν είναι το άρθρο καθαυτό
>>         που ενοχλεί, είναι η συγκεκριμένη άποψη. Κι αν σε μια
>>         "ακαδημαϊκή" λίστα δεν γίνονται δεκτές όλες οι
>>         (δημοκρατικές)  απόψεις, αν αποκλείονται κάποιες ετσιθελικά
>>         τότε μήπως αναβιώνει ο Μεσαίωνας; Πέρασε καιρός από τότε που
>>         έκαιγαν ανθρώπους στην πυρά!
>>         Εν τέλει, κάτι μη χρήσιμο για έναν κλάδο ίσως είναι χρήσιμο
>>         για άλλες επιστήμες. Για όσους δεν μπορούν να αποδεχτούν την
>>         ελευθερία λόγου υπάρχουν δύο δρόμοι: ο πρώτος είναι να
>>         πολιτευτούν με την ΧΑ ή τον ΣΥΡΙΖΑ. Ο δεύτερος να επιλέξουν
>>         μια εναλλακτική απασχόληση.
>>         Κλείνω με μια φράση του σπουδαιότερου σύγχρονου Έλληνα
>>         Πολιτικού Επιστήμονα κ. Στάθη Καλύβα (από την "Καθημερινή",
>>         για τους καχύποπτους):
>>         /"Ο ΣΥΡΙΖΑ του 2012 είναι το ΠΑΣΟΚ του 1981. Το ΠΑΣΟΚ του
>>         2012 είναι η ΕΔΗΚ του 1977. Και ο Σαμαράς του 2012
>>         ετοιμάζεται να υποδυθεί τον ρόλο του Γεωργίου Ράλλη το 1981.
>>         Στον ρόλο της «Αυριανής», τα μπλογκ. Ο Τσίπρας αναβιώνει τον
>>         Ανδρέα, στο πιο νέο και πιο αμόρφωτο και επαρχιώτικο.
>>         Υπόσχεται την ελπίδα, την ανατροπή και την ευημερία. Μιλάει
>>         για εθνική ανεξαρτησία και λαϊκή κυριαρχία. Υπόσχεται
>>         ταυτόχρονα την ευημερία του ευρώ και την άρση της λιτότητας:
>>         λεφτά υπάρχουν. Οι αντίπαλοί του θα επισημάνουν τη δημαγωγία
>>         και τους κινδύνους, αλλά ποιος τους ακούει;/"
>>         Further reading
>>         Η μόνη απάντηση στην πολιτική βία
>>         http://www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_kathpolitics_1_23/09/2012_462678
>>         Κάντο όπως το ΚΚΕ
>>         http://www.tovima.gr/opinions/article/?aid=474385
>>         2012 - 1981, deja vu
>>         http://news.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_columns_2_13/05/2012_482114
>>         Εν ελευθερία
>>         ΑΓ
>>         2012/9/24 Grammenos, Dennis <d-grammenos at neiu.edu
>>         <mailto:d-grammenos at neiu.edu>>
>>             I thought the Nikos Chrysoloras piece in question was an
>>             "op-ed." It sure sounds like that. I wouldn't go as far
>>             as to baptize it "journalistic analysis" though whatever
>>             that may be in this age of blogging.  As for the "news"
>>             and "information" it purportedly provides (valid or
>>             otherwise) I had to re-read it to make sure that I hadn't
>>             miss anything.  I hadn't. No "news" there, just recycled
>>             equivalencies for the least common denominator, verging
>>             on a type of discursive mud-slinging that has always been
>>             common fodder for Greece's embedded "journalists".
>>             Does it have a place on MGSA-L? Thankfully it was just a
>>             link to it for those who care to waste their time reading
>>             it.
>>             And, I did waste my time! What a syllogistic mess:) One
>>             walks away with the equation SYRIZA=Xrusa Auga.  Wow.
>>             Giasas paidia,
>>             Dennis Grammenos
>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>             *From:* mgsa-l-bounces at uci.edu
>>             <mailto:mgsa-l-bounces at uci.edu> [mgsa-l-bounces at uci.edu
>>             <mailto:mgsa-l-bounces at uci.edu>] On Behalf Of Aristide
>>             Caratzas [acaratzas at gmail.com <mailto:acaratzas at gmail.com>]
>>             *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 1:37 AM
>>             *To:* MGSA List
>>             *Cc:* Neni Panourgia
>>             *Subject:* Re: [MGSA-L] Syriza vs. Xrisi Aygi column Του
>>             Νικου Χρυσολωρα
>>             Actually, the posting in question has everything to do
>>             with Modern Greek Studies, it is a journalistic analysis,
>>             and it provides [unpleasant but valid] news and information.
>>             Censorship has no place on an academic list like ours.
>>             Aristide Caratzas
>>             On Sep 24, 2012, at 1:22 AM, Neni Panourgia wrote:
>>>             This posting has no place on this list as it has nothing
>>>             to do with
>>>             Modern Greek Studies, it is not an academic analysis,
>>>             and is it not a
>>>             piece of news or information.
>>>             np/
>>>             On 9/23/2012 3:50 PM, Roland Moore wrote:
>>>>             A subscriber to this list sent this link to a
>>>>             Kathimerini column.  For those subscribers who wish to
>>>>             follow recent showdowns between supporters of Syriza
>>>>             and Xrysi Augi...
>>>>                 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>                 From: athanasios grammenos
>>>>             <athanasiosgrammenos at gmail.com
>>>>             <mailto:athanasiosgrammenos at gmail.com>>
>>>>                 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:18:59 +0300
>>>>                 Subject: Αλέξης Τσίπρας, όπως Μιτ Ρόμνεϊ
>>>>                 Αλέξης Τσίπρας, όπως Μιτ Ρόμνεϊ
>>>>                 Του Νικου Χρυσολωρα
>>>>             http://news.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_columns_2_22/09/2012_496385
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>>>             2012-2013
>>>             Visiting Associate Professor
>>>             Bard College
>>>             Anthropology Department
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>>>             Dangerous Citizens. The Greek Left and the Terror of the
>>>             State
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>>>             Ethnographica Moralia Experiments in Interpretive
>>>             Anthropology
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>>         /Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,/
>>         /you will have understood by then what these Ithakas mean. /
>>         /
>>         /
>>         /Constantine Cavafy/
>>         /
>>         /
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>>         μαρτυρεί»/
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>     /-- --/
>     /And if you find her poor, Ithaka won’t have fooled you./
>     /Wise as you will have become, so full of experience,/
>     /you will have understood by then what these Ithakas mean. /
>     /
>     /
>     /Constantine Cavafy/
>     /
>     /
>     /«Εσμέν Έλληνες το γένος, ως η τε φωνή και η πάτριος παιδεία
>     μαρτυρεί»/
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