[MGSA-L] Syriza vs. Xrisi Aygi column Του Νικου Χρυσολωρα

eleftheria.ioannidou at fu-berlin.de eleftheria.ioannidou at fu-berlin.de
Mon Sep 24 06:51:32 PDT 2012


A few more reflections on this:

The posted article verges on the side of propaganda; its excitable tone 
and the rhetoric it espouses, are rather at odds with the qualities of 
analytical discourse. The so-called information and news it provides are 
clearly manipulated and targeted against the legitimacy of a political 
party.

Defenders of freedom of speech should, I think, be more sensitive to 
undemocratic rhetoric practices.

Censhorship has, of course, no place anywhere (not just on an academic 
list). The text is irrelevant because, among others, it falls short of 
the critical insight and awareness expected here.

-- 
Dr Eleftheria Ioannidou
Lecturer in Drama
Department of Drama and Theatre Arts
University of Birmingham
SOVAC
998 Bristol Rd
Birmingham
B29 6LG



On 24.09.2012 14:37, Neni Panourgia wrote:
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> Dear Mr Caratzas,
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> Let me spell out here why this does not constitute censorship. The 
> article exists in /Kathimerini /and anyone interested in it can access 
> it and the MGSA-L would have no desire (I assume) and certainly not 
> the power to block such access. Such a gesture would, indeed, 
> constitute censorship. But the article is not written by an academic, 
> it does not deal with the question of Chryse Avge, SYRIZA, or Mitt 
> Romney in a scholarly manner, it is not addressed to an academic or a 
> scholarly readership, and it was not presented to this list 
> accompanied by a scholarly or academic commentary. Furthermore, it 
> does not present information, it presents the views of its author 
> dripping with sarcasm. As you yourself note in your message this is a 
> journalistic analysis on two political parties in Greece. The article 
> was posted naked to this list, which is an academic one. Therefore my 
> previous comment about the appearance of the article on this list has 
> nothing to do with free speech and freedom of expression and 
> everything to do with the constitution of the list. The guidelines of 
> this list are very clear and have been voted upon by the membership. 
> Some times posts appear on the list that are really not academic but 
> they are, also, harmless, namely music, poetry, innocuous commentary, 
> and we all read them or delete them or make a minor comment. This 
> article (along with its sister articles by Stephanos Kasimatis) have 
> provoked immense reaction in Greece with emotions flying everywhere. 
> It is a political article, aimed to produce a specific political 
> reaction, and it explicitly disallows scholarly commentary. Therefore 
> it is perfectly suited for /Kathimerini/ and it can be reproduced in 
> any chat list unproblematically, or can be the object of discussion in 
> the context of Journalism Studies, but unless it actually becomes the 
> subject of scholarly discussion it has no place on the list.
>
> But lest I be misunderstood by anyone, I say all of the above, and 
> posted my original post, as a member of the MGSA-L, not as its 
> moderator, which I am not.
>
> Kali evdomada to everyone,
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> np/
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>> Actually, the posting in question has everything to do with Modern 
>> Greek Studies, it is a journalistic analysis, and it provides 
>> [unpleasant but valid] news and information.
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>> Censorship has no place on an academic list like ours.
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>> Aristide Caratzas
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>> On Sep 24, 2012, at 1:22 AM, Neni Panourgia wrote:
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>>> This posting has no place on this list as it has nothing to do with
>>> Modern Greek Studies, it is not an academic analysis, and is it not a
>>> piece of news or information.
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>>> np/
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>>> On 9/23/2012 3:50 PM, Roland Moore wrote:
>>>> A subscriber to this list sent this link to a Kathimerini column. 
>>>>  For those subscribers who wish to follow recent showdowns between 
>>>> supporters of Syriza and Xrysi Augi...
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>>>>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>     From: athanasios grammenos <athanasiosgrammenos at gmail.com 
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>>>>     Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:18:59 +0300
>>>>     Subject: Αλέξης Τσίπρας, όπως Μιτ Ρόμνεϊ
>>>>     Αλέξης Τσίπρας, όπως Μιτ Ρόμνεϊ
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>>>>     Του Νικου Χρυσολωρα
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>>>> http://news.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_columns_2_22/09/2012_496385
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> ________________________
> Professor Neni Panourgiá
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> 2012-2013
> Visiting Associate Professor
> Bard College
> Anthropology Department
> Hopson 301
> Warden's Hall, PO Box 5000
> Annandale-on-Hudson, NY 12504
> (845) 752-7217
>
> ICLS
> Heyman Center for the Humanities,
> Columbia University,
> New York, NY 10027
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> Dangerous Citizens. The Greek Left and the Terror of the State
> www.dangerouscitizens.columbia.edu
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> Ethnographica Moralia Experiments in Interpretive Anthropology
> www.fordhampress.com/detail.html?id=9780823228874
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