[MGSA-L] Greece alone and broke, again

Neni Panourgia np255 at columbia.edu
Mon Jun 25 01:31:19 PDT 2012


> Hanson cites the Theban <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thebes,_Greece> 
> general and statesman Epaminondas 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epaminondas>, Winston Churchill 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill>, and the US generals 
> William Tecumseh Sherman 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tecumseh_Sherman> and George 
> Patton <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Patton> as his heroes. In 
> the field of military history 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history>, Hanson cites John 
> Keegan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keegan> as being 
> influential, and shares a mutual admiration with fellow classicist 
> Donald Kagan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Kagan> and the 
> historian Steven Ozment <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Ozment>.
>
> Hanson is perhaps best known for his 2001 book /Carnage and Culture/, 
> published in some nations (e.g. Australia) as /Why the West Has Won/, 
> in which he argued that the military dominance of Western Civilization 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_culture>, beginning with the 
> ancient Greeks, is the result of certain fundamental aspects of 
> Western culture <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture>, such as 
> consensual government and individualism. Hanson rejects racial 
> explanations for this military preeminence, and disagrees as well with 
> environmental or geographical explanations such as put forth by Jared 
> Diamond <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond> in /Guns, Germs 
> and Steel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs_and_Steel>/.^[18] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson#cite_note-17>
>
> According to Hanson, Western values 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_system> such as political freedom 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_freedom>, capitalism 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism>, individualism 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism>, democracy 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy>, scientific inquiry 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method>, rationalism 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalism>, and open debate 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissent> form an especially lethal 
> combination when applied to warfare. Non-Western societies can win the 
> occasional victory when warring against a society with these Western 
> values, writes Hanson, but the "Western way of war" will prevail in 
> the long run. Hanson emphasizes that Western warfare is not 
> necessarily more (or less) moral than war as practiced by other 
> cultures; his argument is simply that the "Western way of war" is 
> unequalled in its devastation and decisiveness.
>
> /Carnage and Culture/ examines nine battles throughout history, each 
> of which is used to illustrate a particular aspect of Western culture 
> that Hanson believes contributes to the dominance of Western warfare. 
> The battles or campaigns recounted (with themes in parenthesis) are 
> the Battle of Salamis <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salamis> 
> (480 BC; free citizens), the Battle of Gaugamela 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaugamela> (331 BC; the 
> decisive battle of annihilation), the Battle of Cannae 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae> (216 BC; civic 
> militarism), the Battle of Tours 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours>/Poitiers 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poitiers> (732; infantry), the Battle of 
> Tenochtitlan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenochtitlan> (1521; 
> technology and reason), the Battle of Lepanto 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto_%281571%29> (1571; 
> capitalism), the Battle of Rorke's Drift 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorke%27s_Drift> (1879; discipline), the 
> Battle of Midway <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Midway> 
> (1942; individualism), and the Tet Offensive 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tet_Offensive> (1968; dissent).
>
> Though /Carnage and Culture/ appeared before the September 11, 2001 
> attacks <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks>, its 
> message that the "Western way of war" will ultimately prevail made the 
> book a best-seller in the wake of those events. Immediately after 
> 9/11, /Carnage and Culture/ was re-issued with a new afterword by 
> Hanson in which he explicitly stated that the United States government 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government> would win its 
> "War on Terror <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror>" for the 
> reasons stated in the book.
>
> Hanson co-authored the book /Who Killed Homer 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer>?/ with John Heath. This book 
> explores the issue of how classical education 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classics> has declined in the US and 
> what might be done to restore it to its former place. This is 
> important, according to Hanson and Heath, because knowledge of the 
> classical Greeks and Romans is necessary to fully understand Western 
> culture. To begin a discussion along these lines the authors state, 
> "The answer to why the world is becoming Westernized goes all the way 
> back to the wisdom of the Greeks—reason enough why we must not abandon 
> the study of our heritage".^[19] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson#cite_note-18>
>
> Hanson and Heath blame the academic classicists themselves for the 
> decline, accusing them of becoming so infected with political 
> correctness <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness> and 
> postmodern <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern> thinking, not to 
> mention egoism and money-grubbing (grants, visiting professorships, 
> conference-hopping, promotion based on unreadable publications), that 
> they have lost sight of what Hanson and Heath feel the classics truly 
> represent. They say it this way, "the study of Greek in the last 
> twenty years became a profession, a tiny world--but a world of sorts 
> nonetheless--of jets, conferences, publicity, jargon, and perks".^[20] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson#cite_note-19>
>


On 6/25/2012 12:35 AM, June Samaras wrote:
> Doom and gloom - with a brief classical reference -  from Victor Davis Hanson
> ===================
> Greece alone and broke, again | | The Bulletin
>
> http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20120624/NEWS0107/206240303/#.T-eY7aRl-WI.email
>
> Greece alone and broke, again
> Published: June 24. 2012 4:00AM PST
>
> The recent indecisive Greek elections could be summed up by two
> general themes: Greeks want to stay in, and expect help from, the
> eurozone. But they still do not want to take the necessary medicine to
> stop borrowing billions of euros from northern Europeans, who want a
> radical Greek reform of the tax code, deregulation of labor laws,
> fiscal discipline, massive cuts in bureaucracy, and greater
> transparency — all unlikely given Greek history and contemporary
> culture.
>
> So what lies in the future for Greece as it is slowly eased out of the
> eurozone and its civilization goes into reverse?
>
> In theory, with the ability to devalue the drachma and be freed of
> enormous debts, the Greeks could return to business as it was
> practiced in the 1970s. In those sleepy days before the massive
> transfers of northern European money, I lived in a Greece that was a
> Balkan backwater without advanced surgery, autobahns, suspension
> bridges, sleek subways or a modern airport. In that era of genteel
> poverty, Greek divorce, abortion, drug use and crime were rare. Now,
> all are commonplace. Rural Greece outside Athens was more Middle
> Eastern than European.
>
> Yet the problem with returning to the nostalgia of a world long gone
> is just not the creeping return of Third World-like poverty, but
> rather the psychological shock of Greeks losing the European lifestyle
> that is now considered an accustomed birthright. For Greeks not to
> live like those in Munich or Amsterdam would be far more cataclysmic
> in political terms than it would be had they never gotten hooked on
> Mercedeses, iPhones and lattes in the first place.
>
> Over the past three years, exasperated Greeks have rioted and
> blame-gamed rather than embraced self-critique and genuine efforts to
> open up and air out their fossilized economy. Greeks scapegoated the
> European Union, Germans, Americans, Wall Street, their own leaders,
> foreigners, immigrants — anything and anyone other than Greeks
> themselves, who clearly lived in a manner that was not commensurate
> with their productivity.
>
> So when the charade of the Greek euro ends and there are no more
> bogeymen to blame, expect even more political upheaval and furor, not
> calm introspection and reform. Do not rule out a return to some sort
> of autocracy, whether left-wing in the style of Hugo Chavez or, more
> likely, a nationalist Hellenic strongman in the mold of Vladimir
> Putin. After all, democracy does not mark the end of history, but more
> often is a cyclical respite for prosperous peoples who can afford the
> niceties of parliamentary government and liberal tolerance. Right now,
> Greece is neither a prosperous nor a tolerant place.
>
> The recriminations over the euro may also poison the notion of
> European citizenship itself. Even if Greece stays in the European
> Union, relations with fellow EU members will never be the same — sort
> of like the spendthrift brother-in-law who welches on family loans and
> at tense holiday dinners sulks off by himself. After all, would
> Germany ever loan Greece money again after being conned for billions
> of euros while being insulted for its largesse?
>
> History was never kind to the loud and proud but vulnerable Greeks,
> who have suffered centuries of invasions, occupations, civil wars,
> coups and famines. The year 2012 may be terrible, but familiarly
> terrible in the sense of 1922, 1941, 1946 and 1967 — or for that
> matter, 1460 or 338 B.C. The Greeks live in a tough region at the
> junction of Islam and Christianity, where Africa, Asia and Europe
> collide in the eastern Mediterranean. Tripoli, Cairo and Istanbul are
> far closer to Greek soil than are Paris, Berlin and London. Ottomanism
> — the historical bane of the isolated Greeks — is on the rise in
> Turkey, fanning ancient grievances over Cyprus, oil and gas rights in
> shared waters, and poorly demarcated air and sea boundaries.
>
> The European Union’s rapid-response military force is a joke. With
> looming cutbacks and a new orientation in the Pacific, a directionless
> and underfunded NATO soon may be too. Polls show that an indebted
> America is still unpopular in Greece; and Greece, to the extent it
> registers with Americans, is not a favorite of the United States.
>
> Without much foreign exchange, the modern Greek military will die on
> the vine. Will cash-strapped Greeks prefer keeping up their stockpile
> of imported smart bombs at the cost of doing without Siemens CT
> scanners or Bayer’s ciprofloxacin?
>
> Take away the veneer of European membership, and Greece is a tiny,
> broke, isolated and terribly vulnerable nation — once again. Given its
> neighborhood and its inner demons, the current insolvency is the very
> beginning, not the end, of Greece’s problems.
>
> — Victor Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover
> Institution, Stanford University.
>
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