[MGSA-L] Forwarded information, conference on Minorities in Greece

[Tasos Kostopulos]

Plenty of such material you can find (with the appropriate references) in my book "The prohibited language. State repression of slavic dialects in Greek Macedonia" (Athens 2000, Mavri Lista editions. For further information [in Greek only:  http://www.blacklistbooks.com/first.htm ). 
For the list's sake, I shall look for them -and many others, as long as this specific question of the number of Slav-speaking Macedonians is concerned- and post the information about them in this page. You only have to wait for tomorrow or Wednesday.

Tasos Kostopoulos


P.S. 1. I never mentioned the number of "250.000" slav-speaking Macedonians you attribute to me repeatedly. The (now un-)classified documents I am talking about, estimate the numer of indigenous Christian Slav-speakers (i.e. not the Pomaks, neither the Slav-spaking refugees known as "Trakatroukides") between 160-220.000 all over Greek Macedonia (of course, not only the Florina area), although there are also some estimations -by the most authoritative assimilatory service, i.e. the Syllogos for Propagation of Greek Letters (SDEG)- that raise their number to 250.000 in the mid-1930s. After a detailed comparison between various such statistics (compiled by the Army, the Gendarmerie, the local Prefectures, SDEG, the General Directorate of Macedonia, etc) I have concluded that a number of circa 200.000 Slav-speaking Macedonians (including every national tendency among them: Greek nationalists, Bulgarian nationalists, Macedonists, pro-Serb, "nationally opportunists" and, of course, "nationally indifferent") is the most reliable of all, as long as the Inter-War years are concerned.

P.S. 2.  Statements such as "if you do have pro-NAZI -FASCIST or pro-BULGARIAN sentiments, I fully understand your positions", are not at all polite, I think -and it would be better to be avoided ; even if, "around your land of birth", such a labelling has been a constant, decades-long practice, used to undermine those arguments that were not in concordance with the "nationally correct" version of history, ethnology, linguistics, etc.  



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  From: LYNGOS at aol.com 
  To: tkostop at enet.gr ; MGSA-L at uci.edu 
  Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [MGSA-L] Forwarded information, conference on Minorities in Greece


  Why not supply to us these "classified reports"? 
  According to most of the so-called "Macedonian" as well as Bulgarian sites the ENTIRE population speaking the Bulgarian language and/or the idiom were not more than 250,000. 
   
  If you do have pro-NAZI -FASCIST or pro-BULGARIAN sentiments, I fully understand your positions, but again, I am asking you to back-up your assertions. 
  There is one more thing to be explained in here and that is how 250,000 Slav-speakers left in 1920 in Greece, became 4,951 by 1995 or so. Any ideas? 

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