[Cnidaria] Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 17
boero at unile.it
boero at unile.it
Wed May 27 11:23:09 PDT 2009
Peter, are you sure? as far as I can see, there are no cnidocyst
aggregations at the corners of the quadratic manubrium.The shape of the
manubrium and the tentacular bulbs smell like pandeid to me.
nando boero
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> 1. RE another jelly to identify (Peter.Schuchert at ville-ge.ch)
> 2. Re: Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16 (p valdes)
> 3. Re: Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16 (p valdes)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:11:27 +0200
> From: Peter.Schuchert at ville-ge.ch
> Subject: [Cnidaria] RE another jelly to identify
> To: elenag at ecology.su.se, C <cnidaria at uci.edu>
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>> Please, take a look at another jellyfish from the Baltic Sea waiting
>> for identification.
>> It is a juvenile, about 2 mm in diameter.
>
> its a juvenile Hydractinia medusa (or Podocoryna if you accept the genus).
> Juvenile medusae of this family are not identifiable, but it's most likely
> H. carnea or less likely H. borealis (see
> http://www.ville-ge.ch/mhng/hydrozoa/pdf/schuchert2008a.pdf).
>
> Do you have living specimens?
>
> regards,
> Peter
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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:31:51 +0200
> From: p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
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> Well, let's see... obviously Hydromedusae
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> 2009/5/27, cnidaria-request at uci.edu <cnidaria-request at uci.edu>:
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>> From: elena gorokhova <elenag1999 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Cnidaria] another jelly to identify
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> Please, take a look at another jellyfish from the Baltic Sea waiting for
>> identification.
>> It is a juvenile, about 2 mm in diameter.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Elena
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:02:03 +0200
> From: p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
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> and can safely discard Narcomedusae ...
>
> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>> Well, let's see... obviously Hydromedusae
>>
>> 2009/5/27, cnidaria-request at uci.edu <cnidaria-request at uci.edu>:
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>>> From: elena gorokhova <elenag1999 at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [Cnidaria] another jelly to identify
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>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Please, take a look at another jellyfish from the Baltic Sea waiting
>>> for
>>> identification.
>>> It is a juvenile, about 2 mm in diameter.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Elena
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:15:18 +0200
> From: p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
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> ... genus Bougainvillia, and a lot of Trachymedusae and Limnomedusae
> also...,
>
> so probably an Anthomedusae or Leptomedusae, but we have not gonads
>
> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>> and can safely discard Narcomedusae ...
>>
>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>> Well, let's see... obviously Hydromedusae
>>>
>>> 2009/5/27, cnidaria-request at uci.edu <cnidaria-request at uci.edu>:
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 04:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> From: elena gorokhova <elenag1999 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: [Cnidaria] another jelly to identify
>>>> To: cnidaria at uci.edu
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>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Please, take a look at another jellyfish from the Baltic Sea waiting
>>>> for
>>>> identification.
>>>> It is a juvenile, about 2 mm in diameter.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Elena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:15:58 +0200
> From: p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
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> we don't have gonads, sorry...
>
> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>> ... genus Bougainvillia, and a lot of Trachymedusae and Limnomedusae
>> also...,
>>
>> so probably an Anthomedusae or Leptomedusae, but we have not gonads
>>
>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>> and can safely discard Narcomedusae ...
>>>
>>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>>> Well, let's see... obviously Hydromedusae
>>>>
>>>> 2009/5/27, cnidaria-request at uci.edu <cnidaria-request at uci.edu>:
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>>>>> 1. another jelly to identify (elena gorokhova)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 04:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> From: elena gorokhova <elenag1999 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: [Cnidaria] another jelly to identify
>>>>> To: cnidaria at uci.edu
>>>>> Message-ID: <489122.2496.qm at web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, take a look at another jellyfish from the Baltic Sea waiting
>>>>> for
>>>>> identification.
>>>>> It is a juvenile, about 2 mm in diameter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Elena
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:44:46 +0200
> From: p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
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> Aequorea?
>
> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>> we don't have gonads, sorry...
>>
>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>> ... genus Bougainvillia, and a lot of Trachymedusae and Limnomedusae
>>> also...,
>>>
>>> so probably an Anthomedusae or Leptomedusae, but we have not gonads
>>>
>>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>>> and can safely discard Narcomedusae ...
>>>>
>>>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>>>> Well, let's see... obviously Hydromedusae
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/5/27, cnidaria-request at uci.edu <cnidaria-request at uci.edu>:
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>>>>>> 1. another jelly to identify (elena gorokhova)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 04:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>> From: elena gorokhova <elenag1999 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [Cnidaria] another jelly to identify
>>>>>> To: cnidaria at uci.edu
>>>>>> Message-ID: <489122.2496.qm at web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please, take a look at another jellyfish from the Baltic Sea waiting
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> identification.
>>>>>> It is a juvenile, about 2 mm in diameter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Elena
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:52:50 +0200
> From: p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
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> young Phialidium hemisphaericum can be also slightly similar
>
> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>> Aequorea?
>>
>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>> we don't have gonads, sorry...
>>>
>>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>>> ... genus Bougainvillia, and a lot of Trachymedusae and Limnomedusae
>>>> also...,
>>>>
>>>> so probably an Anthomedusae or Leptomedusae, but we have not gonads
>>>>
>>>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>>>> and can safely discard Narcomedusae ...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/5/27, p valdes <p.valdes334 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Well, let's see... obviously Hydromedusae
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/5/27, cnidaria-request at uci.edu <cnidaria-request at uci.edu>:
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>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>>>> 1. another jelly to identify (elena gorokhova)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 04:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>> From: elena gorokhova <elenag1999 at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Cnidaria] another jelly to identify
>>>>>>> To: cnidaria at uci.edu
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <489122.2496.qm at web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please, take a look at another jellyfish from the Baltic Sea
>>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> identification.
>>>>>>> It is a juvenile, about 2 mm in diameter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Elena
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>>>>>>> Name: jelly_fish_Baltic_Sea.jpg
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>>>>>>> Size: 54515 bytes
>>>>>>> Desc: not available
>>>>>>> Url :
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> List-Info: https://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/listinfo/cnidaria
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> End of Cnidaria Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
>>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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