[Cnidaria] Fw: Fw: Re: nematocyst envenomation
Angel Yanagihara
angel at pbrc.hawaii.edu
Thu Jun 26 20:19:59 PDT 2008
Hi Patrick,
Did you receive my email with attachments sent to ottuso at comcast.net ? You
may write to me at angel at pbrc.hawaii.edu directly.
Aloha,
Angel
____________________________________
Angel A. Yanagihara, Ph.D.
Assistant Research Professor
Bekesy Laboratory of Neurobiology
1993 East West Road
Pacific BiosciencesResearch Center
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Tel 808 956-8328
FAX 808 956-8713
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Of ottuso at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:18 PM
To: Sofia Pyataeva; Cnidaria Newsgroup
Subject: Re: [Cnidaria] Fw: Fw: Re: nematocyst envenomation
thank you Sonya for your quick reply. I will attempt to open the file.
thanks for your help.If I have any questions, I will contact you.--Patrick.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Sofia Pyataeva <sonya.bio at mail.ru>
> Dear Patrick,
> please see my message below and a picture of nematocysts in the
attachment. When
> I sent you that massage my e-mail box wrote that your address failed... no
idea
> ))
> I hope Cnidaria list will help, please let me know when you receive this
letter.
>
> cheers,
> Sonya
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sofia Pyataeva
> To: ottuso at comcast.net
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:27:08 +0400
> Subject: Fw: Re: [Cnidaria] nematocyst envenomation
>
> >
> > Dear Patrick,
> > here is an image (TEM) of the group of nematocysts incorporated in the
body
> wall of the dorsal protuberances of nudibranch Coryphella sp. It is a !
cross < BR>> section of the protuberance.
> > Yes, the image quality could be better, and the nematocysts look not
clear...
> I was looking for symbionts in the nudibranch, but not nematocysts, that's
why
> it is an only picture of nematocysts which I took, but probably it could
be
> helpful? I hope so.
> >
> > kind wishes,
> > Sonya
> >
> > _______________________________________
> > Sofia V. Pyataeva, Ph.D.
> >
> > Department of Invertebrate Zoology
> > Faculty of Biology
> > M.V.Lomonosov Moscow State University
> >
> > Leninskie Gori, GSP-1
> > Moscow 119991
> > RUSSIA
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ottuso at comcast.net
> > To: Cnidaria Newsgroup
> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:16:19 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [! Cnidari a] nematocyst envenomation
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Angel. Thank you for your response. For the article I am looking
for an
> image of nematocysts that may be incorporated into nudibranchs for self
defense
> and if possible, a clinical photo of the specific types on nudibranchs
that use
> this defense. I would also like images of nematocysts in the non fired and
> firing mechanisms.--The latter images would be shown at next years
American
> Acad. of Dermatology annual mtg. as I am the director of a focus session
re
> marine dermatology. Thanks, Patrick.
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: "Dr. Angel Yanagihara"
> > >
> > > > Hello Patrick,
> > > >
> > > > Are you looking for an image of a nematocyst recovered from a
nudibranch?
> > > &g! t; My r esearch program focuses upon nematocyst
> > > > ultrastructure and mechanisms of envenomation pathophysiology. I
> > > > have an extensive collection of nematocyst images by light, scanning
> > > > and transmission electron microscopy. None of these are
> > > > nematocysts recovered from nudibranchs but these do represent
clinically
> > > > relevant nematocyst types.
> > > >
> > > > Aloha,
> > > > Angel
> > > >
> > > > ************************************************
> > > > Dr. Angel A. Yanagihara, Principal Investigator
> > > > Cnidaria Research Laboratory
> > > > Pacific Biomedical Research Center
> > > > University of Hawaii
> > > > Honolulu, HI 96822 USA
> > > > Phone 808-956-8328
> > > > Fax 808-956-69! 84
> > > > ************************************************
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Claudia Mills wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Patrick,
> > > > >
> > > > > Your interest is out of my area of expertise, but your message
went
> > > > > out to the entire listserver,
> > > > > so maybe someone else out there will provide you with an answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Claudia Mills
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jun 23, 2008, at 6:18 AM, ottuso at comcast.net wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Claudia. I am a dermatologist in Vero Beach Fla. with an
interest
> > > > > > in marine dermatology/envenomations. I was wondering if you
could
> > > > > > dir! ect me to a reference regarding identification of
nematocyst
> > > > > > speciation. I am not a marine biologist but do lecture to other
> > > > > > physicians re. aquatic dermatology. I am also writing an article
for
> > > > > > a dermatology publication re. indirect nematocyst envenomation
> > > > > > through nudibranchs and would appreciate any photo you may have
of
> > > > > > such--it would be used in the publication with a
reference/credit to
> > > > > > you. Thanks for your time.--Patrick Ottuso, M.D.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > From: Claudia Mills
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Rob,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It does seem to be a L! euckart iara or a Neoturris. I've
found a
> > > > > > number
> > > > > > > of Pandeids on cruises that don't correspond well to described
> > > > > > > species. You didn't give a size, but I am assuming 20-35 mm
tall.
> > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > not a Zanclonia, which would have distinctive tentacles with a
> > > > > > series
> > > > > > > of adaxial nematocyst filaments, which you would have noticed.
Check
> > > > > > > the gonads to place in Leuckartiara (folds only) or Neoturris
(folds
> > > > > > > and pits) -- both genera have mesenteries between gonads and
radial
> > > > > > > canals, which yours has. You should check Larson's Southern
Ocean
> > > > > > > monograph.
> > > > > > >
>! > & gt; > > > > Larson and Harbison described (1990) Leuckartiara brownei
from
> > > > > > McMurdo
> > > > > > > Sound, with 4 large perradial t! entacle s and 28 small ones
> > > > > > between - it
> > > > > > > isn't that. Neoturris pileata has a north Atlantic and Med
> > > > > > > distribution - my biogeographic sense says that it is very
> > > > > > unlikely to
> > > > > > > be near Antarctica. N. breviconis (which G. Mackie has been
> > > > > > looking at
> > > > > > > up close in the last several weeks has lots of tentacles, but
no
> > > > > > > evidence of those exaggerated diverticulae off the radial
canals and
> > > > > > > no southern Ocean references at all.
> > > > > > > !
> ; > > > > > > In my new Light's manual key, I divide things related to
this as
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > more, or less than 60 tentacles. There are very few choices
with
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > (L. breviconis and some huge (8 cm tall) colorless pandeid
from
> > > > > > > offshore surface California waters).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There might be some "new" Antarctic or Southern Ocean things
> > > > > > described
> > > > > > > that I missed in my hour of intermittent Friday night Google
Scholar
> > > > > > > explorations from home.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Claudia
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> Sofia V. Pyataeva, Ph.D.
>
> Department of Invertebrate Zoology
> Faculty of Biology
> M.V.Lomonosov Moscow State University
>
> Leninskie Gori, GSP-1
> Moscow 119991
> RUSSIA
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